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The term "Kowloon"
I am from Hong Kong but the content of this article is not what I've expected.
Kowloon Peninsula is a geograhical term and does not have an absolute definition, while Kowloon has become a administrative term which can be defined accurately.
In the Beijing Convention, Kowloon refers to the part of Kowloon Peninsula south of the Boundary Street.
After the New Territories was also seized by Britain, Kowloon expanded beyond the Street.
- Not likely. New Territories was leased in 1898, and New Kowloon was marked from part of New Territories and added to Kowloon in 1937. This is stated in the definition of New Kowloon in Hong Kong Law Click and go into BLIS.
When we (Hong Kong people) say Kowloon, we do not mean Kowloon Peninsula, or Kowloon City.
--Lorenzarius 10:56 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- I agree with your definition of Kowloon = Hong Kong - Hong Kong Island - New Territories. I have looked for a definition of this administrative term on government websites, but I have not found any thus far. You are more than welcome to improve the articles according to your definitions, with which I mostly agree. Defining "Kowloon Peninsula" might prove being a bit tricky though. olivier 11:11 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
There are still 9 pages linked here. --Jiang
- I removed the disambiguation notice. Kowloon deserves an article per se. Nothing wrong with pages linking to it. olivier 11:18 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Legend or Etymology?
I remember a story from my grade school teacher about the origin of the name Kowloon. I don't know if it is true. Remember the audience at the time was grade school kids, would you believe children stories as real? If it is, this story may be moved into the main article as the Etymology of the name.
The last emperor of the Song Dynasty fled from the Yuan invaders. A fortune-teller told the emperor that his fate may be reverted if he managed to find nine dragons in the south. He went on the quest and reached the edge of the south sea. He failed to find the nine dragons and hang himself. Other fortune-tellers commented that he died unnecessarily because surrounding the spot he committed suicide were 8 rolling ridges of hills which represented 8 dragons. Counting himself as a dragon (which symbolize emperor in China), he had successfully found the nine dragons. The place was since then named Kowloon (nine dragons).
This story may or may not be tied to Sung Wong Toi.
Kowloonese 23:59, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I also heard this tale when I was growing up in Hong Kong. tess 00:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I did hear that the nine dragons are eight peaks in present-day Kowloon, including the Lion Rock and Tate's Cairn. The ninth dragon is the Sung empirer. But this was probably the second last empirer who died near Tuen Mun or somewhere in the western part of Hong Kong, plunge into the sea. The very last empirer was perhaps a brother to the second last, and died at Humen 虎門 near Guangzhou and Dongguan in Guangdong.
The eight peaks
Did anyone else notice that of the eight peaks mentioned, one is not named? Does anyone know what it is? tess 00:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Could it be Victoria Peak? (Tai Ping Shan)? tess 00:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
A large portion of the game Shenmue II for the Microsoft Xbox takes place in Kowloon. I have no idea how accurate, but i'm not sure if its worth mentioning and don't know exactly where or how to put it in anyways.
Somebody put this in the "History" section:
The city of Kowloon was featured in the videogame Shenmue 2, in which the main character, Ryo Hazuki, chases his father's murderer to Kowloon.
I have removed it. If it belongs anywhere, it would not be in history. If there is proof, I suggest putting it in a "Media" section, or a "Popular Culture" section, or some such.--tess 20:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Not sure how to use the Talk page =P I've been looking things up on Wikipedia for a while, but today was my first edit. I'm the person who put in the line about Ryo chasing Lan Di, his father's murderer, to Kowloon. Sorry for the edit =P I'll try to make sure I should do so before editing anything next time.
Kowloon was definitely featured in Shenmue 2 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenmue_II#Story The first line of the Story section mentions it. There are other sources, but simply googling Shenmue 2 would take care of that. --Damselian 22:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's necessary to have an "In Media" section at all. That's like having an "In Media" section for Manhattan - meaning it would be an extremely long and unmanageable list. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Good point.--tess 19:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion
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- East Kowloon Development.jpg (discussion)
- Kowloon Bay CBD in front of former quarry in East Kowloon.jpg (discussion)
- West Kowloon at Dusk.jpg (discussion)
- Yau Ma Tei Police Station, Public Square Street, Yau Ma Tei.jpg (discussion)